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Dr Slaughter
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Posted - 2005.07.15 14:55:00 -
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This looks fantastic. I do, however, have a suggestion...
Being that we can't dynamically receive market data from eve (oh if only we could get XML over RSS for each regions market data (/me dreams some more) why don't you use your code as part of an 'external market' system.
All (well it's a fair bit) it needs is a way for players to post what they want to sell (much like escrow in the game) and then have a settlement engine they can use when the in-game trade completes. Add a ebay style rating system to the exchanges users profiles and we would know who's good to deal with and who's likely to bailout of sales/purchases.
If it worked as a trusted site within the IGB like Naga's loot shop that would be pretty cool too. Caching the graphics is a great plan to reduce load on eve's servers.
This would enable corporations or indeed individual players, to easily set-up their own markets for trading and provide a way to track prices.
I'm blathering on now so I will stop. :)
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Dr Slaughter
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Posted - 2005.08.02 18:05:00 -
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If someone could write their own chart dll and register it in place of the one in the BIN directory you could semi-automate the data collection. The chart dll is third-party so CCP might not beat you up with any large sticks they have around with EULA written on them... best check first though. 8P
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Dr Slaughter
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Posted - 2005.09.29 09:04:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Slaughter on 29/09/2005 09:05:30
 Originally by: Taketa De
Isn't technically reverse engineering, so it should be less of a problem.
Well if someone was clever enough to wrap that third-party charting dll I mentioned above (and I'm not clever enough sadly) or used dll injection it *really* should be possible to have it dump the data back out as the eve client definately has to pass it the data for it to plot the dam things.
Then all we would need to do is manually generate the year range graphs for each thing we're interested in and keep the data upto day by doing daily ones there after.
Dll injection from Google gives me: one tutorial/howto and A tool to actually do it
The charting dll is from: these guys and it's either the MFC C+ one or the Python version of the library.
Krans, Nice one for GPLing your tool too! I hope it periodically pop's up a reminder to send you ISK. :) :)
DRS
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Dr Slaughter
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Posted - 2005.10.05 08:58:00 -
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Originally by: Taketa De
Intercepting the IP stream?
Ethereal 4tw. ;)
Dr S
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Dr Slaughter
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Posted - 2005.10.18 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: FireFoxx80
In conclusion.
Or doing a packet sniff or memory dump/read. Is a very bad thing.
Meh. What a pity. Guess my firewall, antivirus package and the Windows Memory Manager all all in violation of the agreement too. I wonder if they will be banned. ;)
I hope the powers that be will give us a legit way of getting market history at some point.
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Dr Slaughter
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Posted - 2005.10.24 09:37:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Slaughter on 24/10/2005 09:37:19
That line about tools, extra's etc. is laughable. Who's ever used the complex db, or agent lists, or the eve-map program, character manager or.. I wonder, the Naga shop website.. or even my topological maps (to avoid a choke point or find one so you can gank people). Guess what... you're all banned! you broke the EULA by using or trying to use a tool, or extra (website, custom map, etc.)...
Wooooosh. Back down to 2000 accounts and 1500 people on-line.
Devs.. please give us an approved tool to extract market data from our local cache? Make it available to everyone.. have it output in CSV and/or XML. CLI based or an 'export' button on the graph/table itself.
Stops us all thinking about breaking the EULA. It potentially requires no change to the servers or client, and potentially has NO impact on sever performance.
We can then build elegant tools around the exported data without being banned.
hopefully,
Dr S
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